Refusing to accept what you say without question does not equate to being on the attack no matter what you say.

You described my comments as lies and misconceptions without ever pointing to what, exactly, was untrue or misrepresented. What’s the deal?

Also, again: is homosexuality still a tone 1.1? Yes or no?

Care to point out just what lies and misconceptions I’ve written? Are you denying that the quote from Dianetics is genuine? Or are you just afraid to stand up for Lafayette?

As far as your last point – “never defend, always attack” ring any bells? I love the taste of irony in the morning.

Flunk.

“Suffice it to say that the Church of Scientology is, today, open to people of all sexual preferences, and has been since the 1960s.”

Funny, that. Because when Jason Beghe left the CoS, one point he made was that when he was nearly hurt in a car crash, it was attributed to his having a friend who was gay. Or do you reject that as well?

Is homosexuality no longer a tone 1.1? Yes or no?

“There’s plenty of Christian Churches who are very anti-LGBT, why dontcha go harass them for awhile and take a break from your obsession with Scientology?”

Funny you should mention it; if you look through the “other cults” category (here a link) you’ll see a few posts about Westboro Baptist Church, one of the most unpleasantly homophobic “Christian” groups out there. Not, of course, that one group’s homophobia excuses that of another.

Suffice it to say that the Church of Scientology is, today, open to people of all sexual preferences, and has been since the 1960s.

There’s plenty of Christian Churches who are very anti-LGBT, why dontcha go harass them for awhile and take a break from your obsession with Scientology?

Do you have a reference to hand that shows Hubbard meant “isolate” when he said “delete” or “dispose of”?

Further responses to your first comment:

“Having said that, the idea of “deleting” dangerous and antisocial people low on the tone scale isn’t a new one – that’s what most societies do ALREADY, by putting criminals in prison and even sending the worst offenders to the electric chair. ”

Those “dangerous and antisocial people” (i.e. those who registered below 2.0 on the tone scale) include homosexuals. Do you feel homosexuality is dangerous and antisocial?

It also included so-called Suppressive Persons, which includes those who criticise Scientology. Do you support or reject jailing people who disagree with the CoS, or who practice modified Scientology?

I believe this is more in line with what Hubbard was talking about when he spoke of the Venezuelan situation where people with a contagious incurable disease were infecting others.

It doesn’t matter whether we’re speaking of murderers or people with contagious diseases anyway, because in either case, society isolates these people from the generic public whenever possible. I say “isolate”, LRH said “delete”, whatever. It’s the same thing.

Aren’t you glad that LRH spoke in colorful, direct and bold terms like that, so that you could have a rich tapestry of juicy quotes to twist and misrepresent the meaning of, decades later?

“Do you really think Hubbard was wrong to mention the anecdote about lepers in Venezuela? Do you really think murderers and crack addicts in our society today have some sort of innate right to bring down society?”

Are you seriously comparing people with leprosy to murderers and crack addicts?

That’s the purpose of the MATERIALS GUIDE CHART, to put everything into proper context and show you the historical order these texts were written in. You probably know that already, but you’d rather pull wacky-seeming quotes out of context and try to focus on any negative spin you can possibly arrange.

Having said that, the idea of “deleting” dangerous and antisocial people low on the tone scale isn’t a new one – that’s what most societies do ALREADY, by putting criminals in prison and even sending the worst offenders to the electric chair.

Do you really think Hubbard was wrong to mention the anecdote about lepers in Venezuela? Do you really think murderers and crack addicts in our society today have some sort of innate right to bring down society?